Almarea90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:38 pm
selhan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:54 am
By removing the rules, we can see what will happen in the future already. Drow Nobles and Dukes.
Human becoming Matron mothers spreading Loths name.
Snarfy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:25 pm
Almarea90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:53 pm
I honestly don't think we will magically find drow dukes or human matrons just because we will have to emote or write something instead of turning hostile and attacking straight away.
No-one is suggesting that "Drow Dukes", or anything remotely similar in nature, will be the result of changing the KoS rule. Not a single person.
I beg to disagree.
*Shakes fist at Selhan. Then shakes fist at self for missing that*.
Allow me to add an addendum:
No-one is seriously suggesting.... blah blah blah... Not a single person... except Selhan. And they were clearly exaggerating. I think?
Anyway, imho we see a lot of conflict RP even when KoS is forbidden, for example between the factions of the surface.
It is true that UD races are seen with distrust by surface races...
This might be a bit of a misnomer. Every bit of source material I can find pertaining to our current timeline, and setting, states that drow are far more than distrusted. Feared and/or reviled may be a more apt description, but... neither your description, nor mine, seem to be very applicable where BG RP is currently concerned, except in certain circles. Honestly, in all my years here, I have never IC'ly learned about soooo many surface characters spending so much time with drow, on the surface, and on such a regular basis.
And it makes me wonder how many of them are adhering to the this particular portion of the server rules:
Surface/Underdark Travel
When visiting the other side, have a legitimate roleplaying reason with a starting and ending point where you have to return to your home area once your business is concluded. (Being a point of contact and negotiating matters on behalf of a faction is an example of a legitimate reason, whereas going to the other side to PvP others is an example of an unacceptable reason.) Be ready to respond to a DM when asked by one.
Having a character of one side remain on a constant/permanent basis on the other side is not permitted without prior DM approval.
... but so are many surface factions like the Zhentarim and the Red Wizards, yet they can't be killed on sight and nobody is complaining about that.
Not exactly a fair comparison, but, heck, I'll gladly complain for you... ahem.
I don't like that any surface character, including(especially) Zhents and Red Wizards, can utilize an OOC rule to remove themselves from the IC repercussions of their actions.