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Neat little idea I had for Master Alchemist

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So here's an idea I had for Master Alchemist, one that I don't think is TOO strong and it would be a fantastic ability for them to have as far as the Flavor of the ability.

Elixir of LIfe(Ex): You gain the power of the Legendary Master Alchemists of old, the Philosophers, to create an Elixir of Life. Once per day you can create an Elixir that functions as a scroll of Raise Dead. The material cost for this is 1000gp.

I just think this would be a neat little tidbit to give the Alchemist, because it represents the ultimate goal of all Alchemists: The power of either Eternal Life, or the power to Ressurect the dead.

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How much does it cost to create a Raise Dead scroll -- or what is the cost from a merchant. You wouldn't want to crash the market with these elixirs! :P
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potions/elixirs can't be used on another pc so I'm afraid you couldn't have an elixir of raise dead. I suppose you could have it be a renamed scroll, but animation would likely be reading a scroll, rather than dumping a potion on the body.
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and an elixir of raise death doesn't work on yourself (in fugue) also :shifty:
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it will not work it is a prayer spell with words not one drop of water wil rise you it sound odd you cant have a spirit in a Bottle only the breath of life can rise a dead one you can make healing potions but not a breath of life
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I question the lore friendliness of this suggestion.

In FR, gods AND the soul decide if the soul returns to its body. There is no way to go around that, beyond invading a god's realm and forcibly stealing a soul and putting it in a body against its will.

Unless the death is basically "near-death" (brain and heart stopped, but soul didn't depart the body just yet), then it would work the same as shoving a potion of Regenerate, Heal or Gr. Restoration down the throat would.
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not that it is going to happen but i think you are over thinking it, it would still be a potion so as long as every drop of the elixir makes it into the mouth then the spell would trigger and then it would act within the normal rules of said spell which would include refusal of the souls return
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chad878262 wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:31 pm potions/elixirs can't be used on another pc so I'm afraid you couldn't have an elixir of raise dead. I suppose you could have it be a renamed scroll, but animation would likely be reading a scroll, rather than dumping a potion on the body.
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SpookySkeleton wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:49 am How much does it cost to create a Raise Dead scroll -- or what is the cost from a merchant. You wouldn't want to crash the market with these elixirs! :P
Even if it worked, I wouldn't be worried. Brewing Elixirs cost 5-10 times the price of buying a scroll from an NPC.
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Exactly right. This is not a "Crash the market with Elixirs" ability. This is an "Oh, sh-t, downed Ally. We need a revive, NOW." :P
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